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Old 22-Dec-2001   #1
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italian stone pine

Found whats called a stone pine at grcery store. Tree looks healthy. It is not a bonsai at moment. Has anyone ever tried this type pinus pinea ? Tree is priced right, but concerned about feasability for bonsai. I live in Chicago area and am looking for bonsai buddies. Drop a line if interested.
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Old 22-Dec-2001   #2
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Re: italian stone pine

Hi there hopper,

You should be able to make a nice bonsai from an Italian Stone Pine. *Here is a link to a photo of Pinus pinea as bonsai, created by Ernie Kuo.

I found a draft of an article about the tree on his site here

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Old 23-Dec-2001   #3
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Re: italian stone pine

Nice photo & info on our little grcery store mini Christmas trees. They are quite plentful & cheap 'round about now.

Wonder how you stop from getting those big knobs he mentions, the tree in the pic seems to be free of them. That's how mine get, giant knobs on the trunk at the branchs.

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Old 29-Dec-2001   #4
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Re: italian stone pine

Matt thanks for info. As you can see I am now a member. Will post pics of stone pine after I work on it.
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After seeing Ernie's stone pine, I picked a small one up from Wal-Mart for 2 bucks. Hopefully it will be worth showing some day!
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Dear Hack,
You'll notice on a stone pine that the branches grow from the trunk all around the tree....sort of like spokes on a wheel. If you let ALL those branches grow, the trunk becomes knobby. If, early on, you cut off most of those branches....just leave two, they will grow nicely, and no knobs form.
You have to keep after this each season when the tree throws out its new branches. When you cut them off, cut them very closely to the trunk, and put a bit of cut paste on the scar. That should take care of it.

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Hi

I have tried ISP before, the one I had had a coiled base... Dunno why, but it did. So I tried it as bonsai any how. I like it, it performed well, held the form after wiring, but didnt take after the third winter in mn. Dried up and died. Here is the only picture I have of it, after the first styling. It filled out pretty good too.


BTW HERE is a posted pic over at the Gardenweb forum.

And the THREAD that goes with it.

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In the below picture, you may note the coiled base, almost looks like a fist holding a branch. The original trunkline was that of a christmas tree. Bought at Wally world.

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Yeah the Italian stone pine is for warmer climates, which is maybe why you don't see a whole lot of good bonsai specimins of it. Too bad about your tree, it looked nice while it lasted!
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Thanks for the condolence! I kept it going nicely as I said before, it was just that during the winter of 2001, I did not have an adequate tropical storage as I did before. I had moved it into the trop room in time (before frosts) and well, it could have been a number of reasons why it kicked off. I am not writing this species out of my collection yet, I will try another soon.

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For Christmas, my wife got me the 1999 and I will be getting the 2003 issues of Bonsai Today. Issue 59 actually talks about Earnie's Stone pine, he says one of the reasons no one uses them is because mature needles can get up to 8 inches long, so you want to keep the single need im-mature needles, and get rid of the double needle mature needles. He says with this, they make a fine bonsai, and are nice and cheap.
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