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23-Nov-2005
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Ilex identification and info needed!
Today, I acquired an ilex prebonsai from the local nursery (who get their bonsai and prebonsai stock from New England Bonsai out in Bellingham, Massachusetts). All the who I asked about this tree said is that it's native to USDA zone 8 or so and that I should thusly keep it indoors. From things that I've read (which isn't much) and as far as I can tell, this is probably an evergreen variety. You can tell me otherwise, if it's logical to you.
 So the obvious questions are : which variety of ilex did I happen to pick up, what are its ideal growing conditions (I trust the nursery guy on the indoors thing, but as always - feel free to tell me otherwise, if it's logical) and what are the ideal methods in which to style it.
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23-Nov-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
 
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Madison, WI
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 4-5
AHS Heat Zone: 4-5
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Um, it's a little hard to ID a tree without a picture.
Could you please post one. Thanks -Paul
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23-Nov-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Madison, WI
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 4-5
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oops there it is.
it is way too small of a picture for me to tell.
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23-Nov-2005
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I need a better photo editor... the pictures I take and resize to reasonable dimensions always come out too big. And I can't find that thread with the jpeg compression programs... *looks again*
EDIT: Finally figured out a way... Bigger pics!
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<JPolito[stuff]>yor bonzai is always dying <JPolito[stuff]>take it to the vet or something <MinRizor>There are no bonsai vets. D: Last edited by Min_Rizor : 23-Nov-2005 at 06:31 PM. |
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23-Nov-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Madison, WI
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 4-5
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Looks like a Ilex vomitoria to me.
They are tropical, I keep mine indoors durring the winter under lights and outside in full sun the rest of the year. Hope this helps. -Paul
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25-Nov-2005
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What are some tips for styling and pruning this type of tree? Concave cutters or not (apparently has very thin bark, plus it's not much bigger that 6-8 inches in height with underdeveloped trunk and branches... so I doubt it)? Anything about pinching, leaf trimming, back budding?
Anyone?
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<JPolito[stuff]>yor bonzai is always dying <JPolito[stuff]>take it to the vet or something <MinRizor>There are no bonsai vets. D: |
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25-Nov-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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looks kinda like Ilex crenata, Japanese Holly to me
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26-Nov-2005
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Humble Beginner
Join Date: Apr-2004
Location: Dallas Area, Texas
Country: USA
USDA Zone: z8
AHS Heat Zone: z9
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They backbud like crazy, they have very stiff branches once the shoots harden off and will scar from wire very easily. I do have to watch for leafminers---I just clip the infected leaves as I find them. They make wonderful bonsai and are quite common in my area. Have fun with it! Jennifer
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26-Nov-2005
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I'm really just an idiot.
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Judging by what the guy at the nursery told me, I'd just keep it indoors during winter. The summer temperatures here are generous in heat, so it makes sense to let it have some better sun exposure during that season. Thanks for the tips.
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<JPolito[stuff]>yor bonzai is always dying <JPolito[stuff]>take it to the vet or something <MinRizor>There are no bonsai vets. D: |
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26-Nov-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Madison, WI
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 4-5
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Ilex vomitoria are listed as a zone 7-10 plant, sounds tropical to me.
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