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13-Jul-2004	#1
Jon Kypros Plant Artist Join Date: Jun-2004 Country: North America Posts: 120	Elms Which Elms, from experience, do you feel are best for bonsai. If you have time, please list that Elms positive traits. Thanks so much Seiju Elm seems to be very good...

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14-Jul-2004	#2
Camay123 Life Student Join Date: Aug-2002 Location: Gatineau Country: Canada USDA Zone: 5a AHS Heat Zone: 2-3 Posts: 673	Well for sure Chinese Elm, ulmus parvifolia is a very popular choice. I heard that Ulmus pumila, siberian elm is hard to get a good ramification. Ive seen a few english elm bonsai. Japanese elm, Zelkova serrata is also a popular bonsai choice. __________________ Selling Bonsai tree seeds. Flat rate shipping fee worldwide Over 50 species in stock Germination instructions

14-Jul-2004	#3
Nic Nic Join Date: Dec-2003 Location: Sydney Country: Australia Posts: 49	Corky Bark elms get great bark relatively quickly __________________ "Be excellent to each other." - Bill & Ted

15-Jul-2004	#4
jed1238 bonsaiTALK Journeyman Join Date: Jan-2004 Location: Pell City, Alabama Country: U.S. USDA Zone: 8 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 43	I have, and have seen several other nice specimens of winged elm (Ulmus alata). It has a good corky bark, grows fast, and does well in our hot climate in the southeast. __________________ John

16-Jul-2004	#5
BrianBay9 Trunk Collector Join Date: Sep-2003 Location: Loveland, CO Country: USA USDA Zone: 4 or 5? AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 1,362	My favorite is the Seiju - tiny leaves, buds back well, great corky bark, airlayers and cuttings take easily, flexible enough for wiring, forgiving of radical top or root pruning. Brian __________________ There's a difference between taking your art seriously, and taking yourself too seriously.

28-Jul-2004	#6
Jon Kypros Plant Artist Join Date: Jun-2004 Country: North America Posts: 120	thanks for all the replies. what do you think about hokkaido? it has the smallest leaves of any elm i've seen but it's also one of the least used for bonsai as far as i've seen.

29-Jul-2004	#7
will*law bonsaiTALK Journeyman Join Date: Jul-2002 Location: Ithaca Country: USA USDA Zone: 5 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 46	Hokkaido is a gorgeous cultivar. I've killed bunches. I have one that is hanging on. Seiju and Corkbark elms thrive. I think the key, which I only discovered recently, is to use extremely well draining soil. Currently I'm using hard-fired akadama and and crushed lava. It seems to be working. I think it's too damned humid here. I know it is for me. Keep it in full sun at all times. But, it's the only thing I haven't been able to figure out how to get to thrive so far. I've conquered the serissa. My cork pines thrive. So I am determined to be able to grow these! They are lovely trees. Will (who has killed hundreds of trees, I bet)

29-Jul-2004	#8
Jon Kypros Plant Artist Join Date: Jun-2004 Country: North America Posts: 120	That's too bad that so many H. Elms have died for you. When I get my Hokkaido I'll post more about my findings.

29-Jul-2004	#9
BonsaiBen bonsaiTALK Craftsman Join Date: Apr-2004 Location: NYC Country: USA USDA Zone: Zone 7 AHS Heat Zone: 5 Posts: 83	Which of the Chinese Elm varieties have people found to be most cold hardy?

29-Jul-2004	#10
rockm bonsaiTALK ArchMaster Join Date: Oct-2003 Location: Fairfax, Va Country: USA USDA Zone: 7 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 4,561	There many North American native elms that make good to excellent bonsai and can give better results than some of the Asian and/or European species. American elm and the Florida subspecies (ulmus Americana, and var. floridana) are excellent as bonsai. Slippery elm (ulmus rubra) and winged elm (ulmus alata) are also used, although these can be a little harder to do. The best native elm species--bar none-- for bonsai in North America is Cedar Elm (ulmus crassifolia) --native to Texas. It is extremely hardy to heat and cold, can be cut back and pruned mercilessly and attains a "bonsai" image pretty quickly. It's available through collectors in Texas and other online sources.

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