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Will,

I used to paint....i was terrible at it,but i loved the feeling of paint flowing off my brushes onto the canvas and the unexpected images that sometimes evolved....the problem was(and is)i have an ego and am competitive....i wanted to "create" something beautiful,something that others besides myself would admire......i never got there...so i quit...i wasn't talented enough,or dedicated enough,or patient enough....but it was still painting,and i sometimes miss the sensualness and smoothness of those brushstrokes

I've grown "bonsai" for 30 years...nothing great...but better than my paintings

.some of the trees i have,would be sneered at by the ones that push bonsai as an exclusive past time,to be shared only by those whose egos push them to be "artists".In the last year or so,i've realised that while i still want to create "masterpieces"...i probably never will.I've lacked the dedication,perseverance,time "at the right time",attention to detail......and i've also discovered what i really enjoy is the time alone,the relaxation,the watching something grow under my care somewhat under my control,the little surprises when something goes right,the solutions when something goes wrong

I've looked at the galleries and read the postings of those in here who deem themselves the arbiters of what is and isn't bonsai,on what is and isn't correct cultural practice,on what is and isn't artisticly worthwhile,on what is and isn't "misinformation" and without exception i could point out instances where they were "wrong" according to my experiences and my opinion.i could point out trees that are half-assed attempts at what i would call "good bonsai".

i guess what i'm trying to say is that for many,it's the journey that makes it worthwhile....not the "dream" that may never come true.

more and more(it seems to me)this forum has become a place to bash the ones one disagrees with,look down on those who might be less advanced,discourage those who won't take one's advice as gospel

don't get me wrong,i don't "aim" this at just you(as you might have gathered from the referance to "misinformation"

....it has become the flame favor of the day and way too personal,imho.

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andy

7-Jun-2005	#7
agraham bonsaiTALK Master Chief Join Date: Jan-2004 Location: South Texas Country: U.S.A. USDA Zone: 9-10 AHS Heat Zone: 11 Posts: 1,195	painting and bonsai Will, I used to paint....i was terrible at it,but i loved the feeling of paint flowing off my brushes onto the canvas and the unexpected images that sometimes evolved....the problem was(and is)i have an ego and am competitive....i wanted to "create" something beautiful,something that others besides myself would admire......i never got there...so i quit...i wasn't talented enough,or dedicated enough,or patient enough....but it was still painting,and i sometimes miss the sensualness and smoothness of those brushstrokes I've grown "bonsai" for 30 years...nothing great...but better than my paintings .some of the trees i have,would be sneered at by the ones that push bonsai as an exclusive past time,to be shared only by those whose egos push them to be "artists".In the last year or so,i've realised that while i still want to create "masterpieces"...i probably never will.I've lacked the dedication,perseverance,time "at the right time",attention to detail......and i've also discovered what i really enjoy is the time alone,the relaxation,the watching something grow under my care somewhat under my control,the little surprises when something goes right,the solutions when something goes wrong I've looked at the galleries and read the postings of those in here who deem themselves the arbiters of what is and isn't bonsai,on what is and isn't correct cultural practice,on what is and isn't artisticly worthwhile,on what is and isn't "misinformation" and without exception i could point out instances where they were "wrong" according to my experiences and my opinion.i could point out trees that are half-assed attempts at what i would call "good bonsai". i guess what i'm trying to say is that for many,it's the journey that makes it worthwhile....not the "dream" that may never come true. more and more(it seems to me)this forum has become a place to bash the ones one disagrees with,look down on those who might be less advanced,discourage those who won't take one's advice as gospel don't get me wrong,i don't "aim" this at just you(as you might have gathered from the referance to "misinformation" ....it has become the flame favor of the day and way too personal,imho. <ethnicity discussion removed by admin> andy