I think I may be able to settle this argument
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The juniper in my thread
here had a more or less straight trunk until last July. The movement you see there is the result of guy wires being applied. The trunk has never been wired.
I could go out tomorrow cut the guy wires to see if the tree springs back. I think that could settle it. Unfortunately I can not do it today as my daughter has "borrowed" my camera
Watch this space!
Mike