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"I am curious as to why you would feel that this debate is asinine, is there not something to be learned here?"

Second question first. There's that adage about teaching pigs to sing... It's been my observations that most things said in these forums seem to fall onto deaf ears. Folks won't admit to it but the reality is that most won't accept new input. I'm not saying I'm guiltless or that this is an absolute- this is just an observation of how things tend to go.

Perhaps there is something to be learned here; perhaps its not so much about the design at hand howeve that is what I will stick to.

I feel that when one brings analagous "place holders", the argument gets even further away from the truth of the matter and increasingly more "asinine". Why? Because we start out with an exercise in futility and then throw in engine hoists and heavy equipment. Don't forget the peppering of insults, name-calling and faberge' egg personalities.

Why this tree "works" or doesn't has nothing to do with the aforementioned drivel.

Talk about the tree at hand in terms of artistic and/or natural growth characteristics; address it directly and get bonsai out of "elementary school"...

16-Feb-2005	#17
bnsaijim bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: Sep-2001 Location: Gulf Coast Country: Texas USDA Zone: 8b-9 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 772	"I am curious as to why you would feel that this debate is asinine, is there not something to be learned here?" Second question first. There's that adage about teaching pigs to sing... It's been my observations that most things said in these forums seem to fall onto deaf ears. Folks won't admit to it but the reality is that most won't accept new input. I'm not saying I'm guiltless or that this is an absolute- this is just an observation of how things tend to go. Perhaps there is something to be learned here; perhaps its not so much about the design at hand howeve that is what I will stick to. I feel that when one brings analagous "place holders", the argument gets even further away from the truth of the matter and increasingly more "asinine". Why? Because we start out with an exercise in futility and then throw in engine hoists and heavy equipment. Don't forget the peppering of insults, name-calling and faberge' egg personalities. Why this tree "works" or doesn't has nothing to do with the aforementioned drivel. Talk about the tree at hand in terms of artistic and/or natural growth characteristics; address it directly and get bonsai out of "elementary school"... __________________ Jim Stone Seki Bonsai Studio sekibonsai.com Santa Fe, TX