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John,

It's easy to see your point, and that you are trying to be fair to the artist.
Giving the award to the owner is a matter of practicality. In many cases, exceptional trees had many artists working on them, over decades, if not centuries. Some artists may be dead. In other cases the artist(s) are not even known to the owner. It would be impossible to sort out all the convoluted lineages or artists working on the tree.

The only possibility is to give the award to the owner. Owners usually aren't crooks, who would lie whether or not they are the original artists of the work they display. So, what's wrong with giving them the awards? They deserve a lot of credit for giving us a chance to see those trees. Would we be better off if they kept them in their backyard (or on top of their TV sets) just because they did not create them? The award given to them is also an encouragement to keep those trees in show condition and show them to as many people as they can. If we just dismiss them because they are not the Artist, why would they go through the trouble of transporting, setting up, worrying for their safety.

Should we force them to tell everybody at the show: "Hey, I know you like my tree, but you should know that I am NOT the artist"?

That would probably be the last time that we saw their tree.

Just my thoughts on this.

Attila

Edit: BTW, when the awards are given, it is clearly stated the X and Y is the owner of the tree. It is never inplied that they created it.

2-Dec-2004	#65
Attila Attila Soos Join Date: Jan-2002 Location: Los Angeles, California Country: USA Posts: 2,003	John, It's easy to see your point, and that you are trying to be fair to the artist. Giving the award to the owner is a matter of practicality. In many cases, exceptional trees had many artists working on them, over decades, if not centuries. Some artists may be dead. In other cases the artist(s) are not even known to the owner. It would be impossible to sort out all the convoluted lineages or artists working on the tree. The only possibility is to give the award to the owner. Owners usually aren't crooks, who would lie whether or not they are the original artists of the work they display. So, what's wrong with giving them the awards? They deserve a lot of credit for giving us a chance to see those trees. Would we be better off if they kept them in their backyard (or on top of their TV sets) just because they did not create them? The award given to them is also an encouragement to keep those trees in show condition and show them to as many people as they can. If we just dismiss them because they are not the Artist, why would they go through the trouble of transporting, setting up, worrying for their safety. Should we force them to tell everybody at the show: "Hey, I know you like my tree, but you should know that I am NOT the artist"? That would probably be the last time that we saw their tree. Just my thoughts on this. Attila Edit: BTW, when the awards are given, it is clearly stated the X and Y is the owner of the tree. It is never inplied that they created it.