jo schmoo

i don't know ron. i would say formal upright is "out" because informal upright allows for more creativity. sure it's good to see an informal upright but it's hard to beat a good formal upright because people know how much work goes into creating a good formal upright. i don't know why people don't use this style more often when most trees are naturally straight upright. hmm, good question, Ron.

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