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Carl, thanks for clearing up what you said, I was not sure. Frankly I am of the heavily groomed, licked bonsai crowd. In fact I agree with all the things that Smith finds so desirable in Japanese bonsai. I am anal retentive when it comes to pinching and removing downward growing growth on my trees. I love them to be fully wired and have a purpose in mind. If anything, I lean towards traditionaly styled Japanese trees.

Although, I can see some of the points that Walter makes when it comes to forms. While Walter makes some incredable bonsai, none of them can actually be seen in the books. You will not find the rules conforming to the way he styles trees. But sometimes the rules don't have to fit to achieve that final result.

I'm getting ahead of myself, more to come in the Shinji Suzuki/Walter Pall crtitique thread. Boy this should be good!

We get a free ride, Walter won't be home for two or three weeks. (hummm.. he does have a laptop with him, I had to get him an extension cord for his power point presentation in the styling seminar) ( Carl your going to like this)

Al