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We are back to personal taste. We use grow beds, boxes, and squat containers. Here is what I know from personal expperiance. If you create exelent soil in your grow beds and apply good pruning techniques to your material it is no problem to create exelent roots. In boxes and containers with good bonsai soil you will also get perfect roots if you apply good root pruning techniques. Think of it like this, good soil + good techniques = great roots. Techniques include pruning, watering and feeding. I can also tell you this from experiance. If you want to see real growth you had better give your tree a growing bed. (first choice) Five gallon or larger growing container (second choice) 12x12x6 in deep growing box or larger. Anything less and you will stand still for years with little growth. This brings up another point, if you are looking for a tree with no chops or healed chops you had better be prepaired to grow for years in small containers. Continous pinching prevents any overgrowth and this means no chop marks. This is really great when you see it but it takes generations to create a large tree this way.

Glenn

31-Mar-2003	#7
ripsgreentree bonsaiTALK Master Chief Join Date: Sep-2001 Location: Fresno, CA Country: U.S.A USDA Zone: 9 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 1,260	Grow box or ground? We are back to personal taste. We use grow beds, boxes, and squat containers. Here is what I know from personal expperiance. If you create exelent soil in your grow beds and apply good pruning techniques to your material it is no problem to create exelent roots. In boxes and containers with good bonsai soil you will also get perfect roots if you apply good root pruning techniques. Think of it like this, good soil + good techniques = great roots. Techniques include pruning, watering and feeding. I can also tell you this from experiance. If you want to see real growth you had better give your tree a growing bed. (first choice) Five gallon or larger growing container (second choice) 12x12x6 in deep growing box or larger. Anything less and you will stand still for years with little growth. This brings up another point, if you are looking for a tree with no chops or healed chops you had better be prepaired to grow for years in small containers. Continous pinching prevents any overgrowth and this means no chop marks. This is really great when you see it but it takes generations to create a large tree this way. Glenn __________________ ripsgreentree It requires an open hand to give and to recieve.