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Old 24-Feb-2008   #12
Graydon
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Originally Posted by bonsaikc
There's a good reason that Dave DeGroot is the Pacific Rim Collection Curator. I've been on the receiving end when asking him a question, and you almost wish you had the video going. It was from him that I first learned that "perched water tables in bonsai pots" is a fallacy.

I'm just going to hide behind the fact that this is the reasoning I've been taught, and the results show, as John mentioned, that taking off the cakes after candling does keep the needles from extending as much. One of the things I have come to trust is Boon's results, and therefore his advice. If that opens up a new can of worms around here, so be it, but I have never seen anyone get the kind of results he gets in the time frame he gets in, even allowing for a longer growing season. His methods works, and he didn't invent most of them. They come from decades of experience and teachers before him.

The pont is that I am no horticulturist and not much of a scientist. Nor do I want to take the time to do double-blind studies and read mountains of research. I want to grow trees and get the fastest results possible.


Thanks Chris, and yes video footage would have been good. Now that I am taking video with me on bonsai trips I will hopefully be able to catch some good stuff in the future. I wish I would have had the time to discuss exact application principals with him such as removal of the cakes as you guys mention. I never thought of it and I now regret not going deeper in to the discussion.

I'm with you on following proven (perhaps decades old) results. I'm glad you and John so freely share these tips you learn from Boon. I just can't stop thinking about the whys and how comes with organic and chemical fertilizer. Thanks for what appears to become a great discussion topic that we can all learn from and use daily to advance our own trees.
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