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Mr. Glider, or Ms. whatever the case may be. I have no idea how my editorial veered off into educating and teaching. This thread had nothing to do with that. What this thread has to do with is defensiveness when posting a less than good tree. I did not say less than perfect, less than good. Thats a pretty low bar.

On post no. 14 John, (Vonsgarden) challenged your education. It was not hard to see thru your response. It was defensive, filled with more words than a pocket dictionary and finished off with your resume. Reminiscent of some other chaps on the internet.

The positive, At least you have an education in words and that makes you pretty damn well equipped to handle most of the intelligent stuff around here.

The negative, Well this is a bonsai discussion page. I get pretty damn peeved when someone posts a tree and askes for some advice and when they get it, if it's not what they want to hear, they start getting their panties all in a bunch. It's time to sack up and take reality by the horns. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, then it might just be a duck.

I looked everywhere, I seen in your bio that you have been in bonsai twenty years. I have seen no trees. I might ask you to post some here. I will give you my honest appraisal of what I think of them. You can weigh that against everything I have ever posted here and elsewhere. I might also say that you can weigh what others have to say based on their own body of work. You choose what you wish to embrace or dismiss based on what your peers have to say.

I might also like to add a question. Did you aquire your education via the internet? It is a very poor place in which to recieve an education in my experience. I would just as soon let someone know their tree is not as good as it could be and let them seek out their own education in making it better. There are better ways to do that other than here. I submitt a club would be a good place to start. I actively teach in two clubs at the present. Too bad that most do not actually wish to do what is necessary to improve their tree.

Everybody thinks they know it all!

Best in bonsai, Al

10-Sep-2007	#23
bonsaial1 Greybeard Join Date: Aug-2001 Location: Fresno, CA Country: USA USDA Zone: 9 AHS Heat Zone: 13SH Posts: 5,247	Mr. Glider, or Ms. whatever the case may be. I have no idea how my editorial veered off into educating and teaching. This thread had nothing to do with that. What this thread has to do with is defensiveness when posting a less than good tree. I did not say less than perfect, less than good. Thats a pretty low bar. On post no. 14 John, (Vonsgarden) challenged your education. It was not hard to see thru your response. It was defensive, filled with more words than a pocket dictionary and finished off with your resume. Reminiscent of some other chaps on the internet. The positive, At least you have an education in words and that makes you pretty damn well equipped to handle most of the intelligent stuff around here. The negative, Well this is a bonsai discussion page. I get pretty damn peeved when someone posts a tree and askes for some advice and when they get it, if it's not what they want to hear, they start getting their panties all in a bunch. It's time to sack up and take reality by the horns. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, then it might just be a duck. I looked everywhere, I seen in your bio that you have been in bonsai twenty years. I have seen no trees. I might ask you to post some here. I will give you my honest appraisal of what I think of them. You can weigh that against everything I have ever posted here and elsewhere. I might also say that you can weigh what others have to say based on their own body of work. You choose what you wish to embrace or dismiss based on what your peers have to say. I might also like to add a question. Did you aquire your education via the internet? It is a very poor place in which to recieve an education in my experience. I would just as soon let someone know their tree is not as good as it could be and let them seek out their own education in making it better. There are better ways to do that other than here. I submitt a club would be a good place to start. I actively teach in two clubs at the present. Too bad that most do not actually wish to do what is necessary to improve their tree. Everybody thinks they know it all! Best in bonsai, Al __________________ Real men don't wear coats with "happi" in the title.