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Point 1. What does the price of material have to do with the desire to keep it alive? Just because one pays less for a tree, do you really think they think less about it? Some of my best trees were had for under twenty dollars, I don't think any less of them than the elm grove I have almost 800.00 dollars in.

Point 2. Jay asked our opinion of how we would determine the price of our own material, we responded.

Point 3. You are on the wrong thread to even be talking about my 8.00 bid anyway.

Point 4. First you have to grow material that someone would be willing to give you a hundred dollars for in the first place. You have not posted any of these plants yet.

Point 5. If you keep challanging everyone to grow stuff just to prove your point, what will you do with those 3 1/2 acres of plants your growing?

Point 6. Some people desire to purchase plants from a grower such as yourself. People will always be looking for a deal, why beat a dead horse. People will pay what you ask if they think they are getting their monies worth.

Point 7. The big money is in tastefully done finished bonsai. The money is not in the growing. You can't compare trees in the ground to what Brussel's bonsai is selling trees for. Your time is worth nothing. That is why I do not sell many stands. I am not an assembly line, I don't have 20 guys working for .50 a day. I may sell on ebay and cut out the middle man, and could make a buck, but there is a lot of time involved to do this. To do this on a scale such as you guys have would require much more man power than you have.

Point 8. The only way you will ever settle this is to just put this stuff up for sale. What are you waiting for anyways. You gonna sell it or cultivate it for another five years. Every year its in the ground, your losing money that you will never get back. The longer you keep it without working on the top, the less chance you have in selling it.

5-Dec-2002	#7
bonsaial1 Greybeard Join Date: Aug-2001 Location: Fresno, CA Country: USA USDA Zone: 9 AHS Heat Zone: 13SH Posts: 5,247	Point 1. What does the price of material have to do with the desire to keep it alive? Just because one pays less for a tree, do you really think they think less about it? Some of my best trees were had for under twenty dollars, I don't think any less of them than the elm grove I have almost 800.00 dollars in. Point 2. Jay asked our opinion of how we would determine the price of our own material, we responded. Point 3. You are on the wrong thread to even be talking about my 8.00 bid anyway. Point 4. First you have to grow material that someone would be willing to give you a hundred dollars for in the first place. You have not posted any of these plants yet. Point 5. If you keep challanging everyone to grow stuff just to prove your point, what will you do with those 3 1/2 acres of plants your growing? Point 6. Some people desire to purchase plants from a grower such as yourself. People will always be looking for a deal, why beat a dead horse. People will pay what you ask if they think they are getting their monies worth. Point 7. The big money is in tastefully done finished bonsai. The money is not in the growing. You can't compare trees in the ground to what Brussel's bonsai is selling trees for. Your time is worth nothing. That is why I do not sell many stands. I am not an assembly line, I don't have 20 guys working for .50 a day. I may sell on ebay and cut out the middle man, and could make a buck, but there is a lot of time involved to do this. To do this on a scale such as you guys have would require much more man power than you have. Point 8. The only way you will ever settle this is to just put this stuff up for sale. What are you waiting for anyways. You gonna sell it or cultivate it for another five years. Every year its in the ground, your losing money that you will never get back. The longer you keep it without working on the top, the less chance you have in selling it. __________________ Real men don't wear coats with "happi" in the title.