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First, wayne: I am a bit aggitated by your comment. Not all of us have a cushy job only working Mon-Fri with weekends off. Not all of us work normal hours and not all of us make a decent earning at work. I told you and john when I first attended that I may not be able to attend EVERY meeting. But if me having to work every other weekend is a sob excuse to you then so be it. And if me not attending every meeting is a problem to you and others then it would be best that I no longer attend anymore meetings. I don't need my honest word critiqued as an excuse. Also as I have told you before that I do have a greenhouse. So building a cold frame is unnecesary. And I did state that I could wait til next year to do the airlayering. That also goes for you too quinn.

Now to you quinn: These trees are not pencil trunks. Yes one them has a trunk just a little bigger than the width of a pencil but that starts from where there was a cutback of some sort well before I bought these. From soil line to about 3 inches above the trunks are about an inch. The rock in the photos of both trees' trunks is 1 1/2 inches wide. But I'll let you look over the pics and you can be the judge...and jury.

I am not trying to start a fire or an argument but I am going to say what is on my mind and not sit back and take it.