Vance, I wasn't just talking to you.... I was addressing several people's posts at once. You are right that the true talent lies in finding good starting material, no matter where it is from.
So we agree... I'm not poo-pooing nursery stock, and you're not poo-pooing good expensive stock. We are together poo-pooing people who don't have an eye for good stock, where ever it comes from.
Joanie