Vonsgardens

Hans,

Sorry, haven't seen the Karate kid movies in the last few decades and certainly nothing was memorable except for the "Wire on, Wire off" adaptation of "Wax on, Wax off"".

Hans, last I checked most of your trees (that you have posted on your site) were not seedlings you started and waited oh, 20-40 years to finish. Yours tend to be collected trees, some you have collected and some that you have purchased, or have been given or have traded for. Then you applied your eye and talent to them and over time yo have developed beautiful trees.

This is exactly what I believe Al is stating- you are more likely to get really good trees when you start with really good material.

Al, I bought a very nice Green Atlas Cedar from Jim Gremel in Sacramento last fall. Yes they are spendy, but the potential is quite good. I thought about taking a second job to pay for it.....

John

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