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Old 30-May-2007   #13
grampz
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Originally Posted by bonsaial1
This is the exact type sentance I would expect to hear in America. Whether tongue in cheek or not, thats the prevailing attitude when it comes to buying a more finished tree. We keep telling people this over and over with out rhetoric and people start believing that if they haven't fashioned their bonsai from scratch then they are somehow lacking in skills. "That person wins all the ribbons but he/she didn't make any of their trees". How many times have any of you heard that at a club show. They still have trees maybe many years in their care and they still are worthy of first place, that says something for the caretaker. They know what their doing. Why must we judge what others have found to be the easiest way to get to better trees?


I'm sorry...I guess I didn't make my thoughts clear enough on this...I certainly have no objections to anyone buying a finished or semi-finished tree, and even showing it as their own the very same day...It is their tree...They not only paid the bucks for it, but they also had the knowledge to choose the tree, and hopefully they will have the knowledge to maintain or hire someone to maintain the tree...If any one is interested in buying one of my trees, or hiring me to maintain their trees, we can certainly talk...Sorry though, I have never studied under a "Master", Japanese or otherwise, I do not belong to any world, national, or state organizations, I don't own any 'masakuni' tools, and I am not recognized by anyone of any authority as an artist, master, or even bonsai grower...

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Originally Posted by bonsaial1
The way "I" see it. Those less fortunate with discretionary funds to spend on bonsai will always be on the outside looking in if they wish to have a nice collection. Nature of the beast. I wish to drive a Porsche too, but I have pretty much settled on the fact that it will never come to be, so why worry about it.


I don't worry about it at all, any more than you do...As a matter of fact I have spent my whole life "on the outside looking in", and it really is not that bad a place to be...Yes I will NEVER have a 'nice collection', when judged by the standards of 'those on the inside looking DOWN on the rest'...However, I will continue to gain much pleasure from watching people enjoy my trees, listening to them talk about memories and experiences that seeing my trees evokes in them, asking questions about how something was achieved, and seeing them take photos of my trees...Not world class recognition, but none the less very gratifying...I don't have the 'where with all' to buy my way into the "In-crowd", but I am also not sure I would if I could...

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Originally Posted by bonsaial1
I see more and more people every day relateing their experiences on digging stock from homes and gardens. This is a good thing. People have reasoned that it may be better to get something a little larger and with more choices than always making a cascade or windswept juniper.


I too find this very exciting...We both go back a few years enjoying the art of bonsai, and what I am seeing more and more is people making the change from 'sticks in pots' to much better stock much sooner than they were even 10 years ago...Perhaps it is the education and publicity that is causing this, and as people learn enough skills to keep a tree healthy they are more inclined to get better stock to work with...

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Originally Posted by bonsaial1
Nice thing about an editorial, I don't have an overwhelming desire to have anybody see my way as the only way, it's just my way. Feel free to do it any way you wish.


And the nice thing about commenting on an editorial such as this is, I too have no burning desire to have anyone see things my way...I only wish to point out that we are not all in this for the same reasons, nor working from the same bank account...

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Originally Posted by Ashbarns9999
Al Keppler has a mission on this and other forums and that is to get members thinking out of the square and this he does rather well. Sure he can be controversial and sometimes misunderstood but he does get your juices going. Keep on keepin on Al.


And thank you for this thought Mr. Ash...I fully agree with you on this...It is because of people like Mr. Al with his sometimes controversial thoughts and statements that we all have the opportunity to analyze where we are in bonsai, and how to get to the next level...

Regards
Behr

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