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Hmmmm....
KC, I mostly disagree with you, except for the "Contest" part which are mostly truly "Personality contests".
But, I can't begin to tell you how much I've learned watching demos over the last 28 years whether its at a conventio with a STAR or at a local meeting with a "peer". Dito with workshops.
I think you have either taken too short a view, or , possibly, don't really have that much experience in watching demos ( or doing them). BTW, I KNOW you work with Boon, but I'm wondering if this is your only exposure?
Over the years, I've seen great demos, ok demos, demos by "unknowns" that I thought were great, and demos by "Stars" that I thought sucked. Ditto with workshops. I've seen trees that had NO CHANCE to survive but wonderful techniques were shown WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, to me at least, that these were to be "time-elapsed" techniques! and, I've seen demos on trees well established , like mine, that I KNOW will do great for years unless the new owner does something dumb.
I've been on both sides of this fence and have found my own way of doing things through experience in watching demos.( In fact, due to the timing of this thread I'm wondering if it was prompted by Bob O's thread on my visit to Hampton?)
One thing I CAN say, after all thee years, is that after watching a great stylist...I can't wait to get home and dive in!
I have always said, you can't learn bonsai from a talk-group, or books or a local club or by yourself! You need to attend conventions/symposiums and you need to study with folks where thats all you do is work on trees whether it's with a wordly-master, local master or a study group. Working WITH or WATCHING someone who knows what he/she is DOING..and then doing it yourself....is the way to learn bonsai.
Dale

BTW, Ron, I'm free....well, not really "free"

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If you want to be Different....
You have to DO something Different!
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Some people NEVER take the time to do a job right the first time....
but, they always seem to make the time to do it over again...
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Dale Cochoy
Wild Things Bonsai Studio
Yakimono no Kokoro Bonsai Pottery
Hartville, Ohio

22-Oct-2006	#15
Dale Cochoy Old Bonsaiman-new pots Join Date: Dec-2002 Location: Hartville, Ohio Country: USA USDA Zone: 5 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 2,684	Hmmmm.... KC, I mostly disagree with you, except for the "Contest" part which are mostly truly "Personality contests". But, I can't begin to tell you how much I've learned watching demos over the last 28 years whether its at a conventio with a STAR or at a local meeting with a "peer". Dito with workshops. I think you have either taken too short a view, or , possibly, don't really have that much experience in watching demos ( or doing them). BTW, I KNOW you work with Boon, but I'm wondering if this is your only exposure? Over the years, I've seen great demos, ok demos, demos by "unknowns" that I thought were great, and demos by "Stars" that I thought sucked. Ditto with workshops. I've seen trees that had NO CHANCE to survive but wonderful techniques were shown WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, to me at least, that these were to be "time-elapsed" techniques! and, I've seen demos on trees well established , like mine, that I KNOW will do great for years unless the new owner does something dumb. I've been on both sides of this fence and have found my own way of doing things through experience in watching demos.( In fact, due to the timing of this thread I'm wondering if it was prompted by Bob O's thread on my visit to Hampton?) One thing I CAN say, after all thee years, is that after watching a great stylist...I can't wait to get home and dive in! I have always said, you can't learn bonsai from a talk-group, or books or a local club or by yourself! You need to attend conventions/symposiums and you need to study with folks where thats all you do is work on trees whether it's with a wordly-master, local master or a study group. Working WITH or WATCHING someone who knows what he/she is DOING..and then doing it yourself....is the way to learn bonsai. Dale BTW, Ron, I'm free....well, not really "free" __________________ ________________________________ If you want to be Different.... You have to DO something Different! __________________________________________ Some people NEVER take the time to do a job right the first time.... but, they always seem to make the time to do it over again... ____________________________________________ Dale Cochoy Wild Things Bonsai Studio Yakimono no Kokoro Bonsai Pottery Hartville, Ohio