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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Oct-2004
Location: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Posts: 87
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I was very nearly going to let all of this slide, however after some deliberation, I feel that I must have a right of reply and give my side to the sorry saga at BC.
Pearlmaster said,
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Just in response to this: Mcspeed
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This is not the only site this garbage has been going on, and it drove another sites administrators, and moderators to cheat, lie, and work behind the backs of the users of the site.
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I am a member here after all and I feel I do have the right to defend an unjust and unsubstantiated statement when I feel all the facts are not known. Nothing more.....nothing less. He brought up the subject, not I. Is there some problem with my posting a response? If there is I suggest you bring it to a moderators attention or the administrator.
Best, Phil
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As I was the member who inadvertently stumbled upon the Moderators Forum, I am perhaps the best person to explain the events as they happened.
Firstly. There are only three possibilities as to how I could have obtained the content of the moderators forum.
1. I hacked into the pps system criminally.
2. I was given access by someone who wanted me to have it.
3. It was a simple glitch in the program that just happened at the same time as the banning of Will was going on.
Now due to the fact that I know that I couldn’t hack into any computer, my educated guess would go with number 2. I believe that the powers to be at BC just decided to rid themselves of all members who seemed to be supporting Will Heath and as reading the Moderators Forum was a banning offence, we were given that access so that we could be banned without any say in the matter. Now I could just be paranoid and it’s possible that it could be number 3. Those who know more about this program will know better than me.
As to Pearlmasters other statement.
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Having said that, I appreciate your defending the alluded to site. No need to mention it by name but I'm quite sure everyone here can easily surmise what that site is. Suffice to say that what transpired in the break in of our moderator board is unforgivable and was a travesty beyond comprehension. The people that did so, as most of you may well know by now, were banned. However they took and downloaded many of the moderator post's, distorted, perversely altered them and sent out countless PM's and e-mails to many of the members in hopes of.......? God only knows what! I'm still trying to figure that out! Guess I'm just trying to say that there are those (and I'll refrain from any names here) just simply do not know the facts and have only relied upon what they were told by the above offenders. Until you absolutely know the facts I would strongly suggest that you refrain from such critical judgments on our site.
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Yes, upon reading the comments on this forum, I was shocked to say the least, at what the moderators, who I had only minutes before thought of as friends, were saying about myself and others members of this site.
To say that the posts were distorted and perversely altered is an outright lie, they are exactly as copied from the site. Anyone wishing to read same may do so by contacting me by pm or email.
As to the real issue.
Did Will Heath plagiarize? We know, and He knows, that he did and he has attempted to apologise.
However, on reading the 134 posts to this thread, I can’t help remembering and believing the oft quoted statement. There are three sides to every story – His side – Your side – and the truth.
I can’t help thinking that many of the participants to this discussion have a different axe to grind and just want to sink the boot – get over it and get on with your life.
Yours in bonsai
Jon Chown
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