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Old 14-Sep-2006   #32
RonMartin(deceased)
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Been thinking about the following statements for quite a while. I think both of them deserve an answer. Not just a flip remark but as best an answer as I can give.

Here goes

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Originally Posted by Wen
I agree. There are undoubtedly readers of the Journal of the American Bonsai Society who do not frequent this or other sites, who are unaware of the mistake and apology.

Does anyone know if the editors of the Journal are taking any disciplinary action (e.g. future contributions)? Alternately, are there plans to print a correction/list of sources? After all, the introduction at issue comprised nearly the first full page of the Journal article. Recent corrections have been printed in other bonsai periodicals, such a remedy might place this issue completely to rest for all involved.

It is true the bonsai periodicals most of us read are not peer-reviewed scientific journals. However, I expect the editors of bonsai magazines and journals should still be concerned with the integrity of all material in their publications. I would hope this concern remains no matter how unintentional or accidental the mistake, and regardless of the author's credentials, prior achievements, or enthusiasm.
While I am connected with ABS I am certainty not an authorized spokesman for them. Best that I can say is the appropriate people know of it and I would assume that some action will be taken. I trust in their judgment and am sure that they will come up with the right solution to the problem. One that just about everyone can live with.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl_Bergstrom
I agree. There's nothing wrong with aiming for the highest standards of professionalism; this would suggest that any bonsai publication, be it print or online, should print a correction / acknowledgment of any erroneous, plagarized, or otherwise problematic article published there.

Best regards,

Carl
The only difference between a printed magazine article and an on line publication is that the online ones have a delete button.

The hard copy magazine has to handle the matter very carefully. No matter what they do the magazine is still going to be out there. Both the author’s and the magazines reputation are on the line. Ten years from now that magazine can still be there.

A reputable on line publication has the same problem but in a much smaller way. They only have to worry about what was actually downloaded and printed. What is on the screen is just a delete button away.

A reputable online publication would have already deleted the offending article and put an explanation in its place.

I would imagine that all the publications concerned will take actions that will be acceptable to its readership.
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