Deku

I really like the look of both of these trees, but I can't find much information on them as bonsai. Is there some reason they don't seem to be used much? Are they easily killed?

I would like to grow some of my own; from cuttings, seeds, or both, but I understand either way is difficult. Has anyone had any success with these? Can SH/HW cutting of these root or do I need to wait until there is SW growth next spring? Will seeds collected from local trees have any chance of germination? I'd rather not buy seeds or seedlings if I can grow some from local trees.

I should have a .8% hormex rooting powder for "hard to root" trees arriving soon; will this be strong enough for these types? Would it work for Japanese maples? I have read that some people have had success with Japanese maples by putting SW cuttings in a glass of water with some dissolved hormone and a little soap. Would this approach work better for these other types of maples too?

Thanks!

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