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You can take almost anything to a breaking point. I have seen Korean tridents that in my mind definatly fall into the catigory that old mr. crow is speaking of. The preticular tree that comes to mind looked like the base of the tree had melted with no division into smaller roots at all. That being said I can not speak out against the multiple trunked tree posted above as I feel that it is a beautiful and powerful bonsai. I would love to own trees that look like this. I feel that when a tree has this kind of root structure It gives the work a feeling of strength, stability and age that by other means is difficult or imposible to atain. This does not mean that this can't be taken to excess. Mr Crow when the foundation of a tree over powers the trunk line and crown I can agree with your arguments but I must say that I have seen very few examples where this has been the case.

Al Bless your heart you say the darndest things. It is my openion that if a person trys to build a collection by buying trunk line and limb structure first and then as you say spend 20 years creating a good root structure there is an exelent chance that you will end up with 20 years of effort in a tree with bad roots.
You say that your trees don't come cheap and that vendors don't have trees with good nebari. It is again my opinion that when a tree has been grown for Bonsai and has good nebari and a decent trunk line its value is going to start at $100.00 and that is cheep bonsai. People who have serious trees in there collections spend much more per tree than that.
You started a good thread and I have said as much, Why then do you tell others to buy a tree for its trunk line and limb structure and try to create nebari later. Wouldn't it be better to say find good nebari and trunk line, buy that and then create good limb structure on a good foundation. Mind you I am just asking.
One last thought...... Al you have put your self in the position of teaching on this forum and you have the attention of many beginers.

18-Sep-2002	#19
ripsgreentree bonsaiTALK Master Chief Join Date: Sep-2001 Location: Fresno, CA Country: U.S.A USDA Zone: 9 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 1,260	You can take almost anything to a breaking point. I have seen Korean tridents that in my mind definatly fall into the catigory that old mr. crow is speaking of. The preticular tree that comes to mind looked like the base of the tree had melted with no division into smaller roots at all. That being said I can not speak out against the multiple trunked tree posted above as I feel that it is a beautiful and powerful bonsai. I would love to own trees that look like this. I feel that when a tree has this kind of root structure It gives the work a feeling of strength, stability and age that by other means is difficult or imposible to atain. This does not mean that this can't be taken to excess. Mr Crow when the foundation of a tree over powers the trunk line and crown I can agree with your arguments but I must say that I have seen very few examples where this has been the case. Al Bless your heart you say the darndest things. It is my openion that if a person trys to build a collection by buying trunk line and limb structure first and then as you say spend 20 years creating a good root structure there is an exelent chance that you will end up with 20 years of effort in a tree with bad roots. You say that your trees don't come cheap and that vendors don't have trees with good nebari. It is again my opinion that when a tree has been grown for Bonsai and has good nebari and a decent trunk line its value is going to start at $100.00 and that is cheep bonsai. People who have serious trees in there collections spend much more per tree than that. You started a good thread and I have said as much, Why then do you tell others to buy a tree for its trunk line and limb structure and try to create nebari later. Wouldn't it be better to say find good nebari and trunk line, buy that and then create good limb structure on a good foundation. Mind you I am just asking. One last thought...... Al you have put your self in the position of teaching on this forum and you have the attention of many beginers. __________________ ripsgreentree It requires an open hand to give and to recieve.