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Hey thanks you guys, I'll have to read that article Red thanks, a lot of what is back there is only chopped above one or more branches, it's almost like the beavers have access to this site xD. Given that there are branches left would that be OK to dig as soon as the buds swell ? The ligustrums will die back to the ground and send up suckers from the root base, alot of the trees were "chew-opped" this year alot a last year and years past so many already have backbudded and have somewhat long whips growing from the old wood. A couple of the trees back there haven't been chopped but have been grown in very muddy wet conditions and as such have great root flare and many small feeder roots just under the soil surface to develop a good nabari with, and also quite a few low growing branches, the trunks on these are smaller but they would make fine shohin or through successive chops mame size trees.Some of the trees are actually growing IN water, some in a spot that gets flooded on a regular basis so they are kind of stunted. I may try to get some pics of them in the ground where they are now before digging so that you guys can see more what I mean. Oh yeah what movie is that from Red or Dale?

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23-Jan-2006	#6
zen w/ Hippyistic Tendencies Join Date: Jan-2005 Location: Commerce GA (Near Athens) Country: U.S. USDA Zone: 7b AHS Heat Zone: 7 Posts: 1,799	Hey thanks you guys, I'll have to read that article Red thanks, a lot of what is back there is only chopped above one or more branches, it's almost like the beavers have access to this site xD. Given that there are branches left would that be OK to dig as soon as the buds swell ? The ligustrums will die back to the ground and send up suckers from the root base, alot of the trees were "chew-opped" this year alot a last year and years past so many already have backbudded and have somewhat long whips growing from the old wood. A couple of the trees back there haven't been chopped but have been grown in very muddy wet conditions and as such have great root flare and many small feeder roots just under the soil surface to develop a good nabari with, and also quite a few low growing branches, the trunks on these are smaller but they would make fine shohin or through successive chops mame size trees.Some of the trees are actually growing IN water, some in a spot that gets flooded on a regular basis so they are kind of stunted. I may try to get some pics of them in the ground where they are now before digging so that you guys can see more what I mean. Oh yeah what movie is that from Red or Dale? __________________ "Although profoundly "inconsequential," the Zen experience has consequences in the sense that it may be applied in any direction, to any conceivable human activity, and that wherever it is so applied it lends an unmistakable quality to the work." ~ Alan Watts (1915-1973)