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ethanopia,

Excellent advice! Nice insight into the history of the naming of JBP. Most species named after a person have the ii (pronounced ee-eye I'm told) suffix. I'd imagine that would be the accepted name, but thunbergiana shows up alot. Brent Walston says he goes by Steve Pilacik's 1993 Japanese Black Pine as it regards the cultivars. Brent uses "thunbergii" while Pilacik's book opens "Pinus thunbergiana is a resonous conebearing evergreen..." Oh well, consensus is overrated.

Back to what I'm really concerned with... Thank you for the advice. The advice that you "don't know how much help" it is could very likely save those two trees. I expected that they may not backbud as extensively as JBP but I planned to treat them pretty much the same expecting slower results from the P. n's. The pruning tip will be helpful too. Thanks again. That is exactly the kind of information I wanted to see. I guess I'll baby the P.n's a little more. I'm sure they can handle all the cold my clime will provide. Does anyone know how they hold up in the heat/humidity?

I've seen some really impressive Pinus nigrae (isn't that how you'd pluralize it in latin...only guessing) on IBC coming out of Europe. Karl Thier on this board has shown some as well. A few post show up recommended at the bottom of this page, "Similar Threads", but there's little follow up in those. I wonder if JBP techniques killed them?

1-Nov-2005	#9
bwaynef bonsaiTALK Master Chief Join Date: Sep-2004 Location: Upstate South Carolina Country: USA USDA Zone: 7 AHS Heat Zone: 8 Posts: 1,234	ethanopia, Excellent advice! Nice insight into the history of the naming of JBP. Most species named after a person have the ii (pronounced ee-eye I'm told) suffix. I'd imagine that would be the accepted name, but thunbergiana shows up alot. Brent Walston says he goes by Steve Pilacik's 1993 Japanese Black Pine as it regards the cultivars. Brent uses "thunbergii" while Pilacik's book opens "Pinus thunbergiana is a resonous conebearing evergreen..." Oh well, consensus is overrated. Back to what I'm really concerned with... Thank you for the advice. The advice that you "don't know how much help" it is could very likely save those two trees. I expected that they may not backbud as extensively as JBP but I planned to treat them pretty much the same expecting slower results from the P. n's. The pruning tip will be helpful too. Thanks again. That is exactly the kind of information I wanted to see. I guess I'll baby the P.n's a little more. I'm sure they can handle all the cold my clime will provide. Does anyone know how they hold up in the heat/humidity? I've seen some really impressive Pinus nigrae (isn't that how you'd pluralize it in latin...only guessing) on IBC coming out of Europe. Karl Thier on this board has shown some as well. A few post show up recommended at the bottom of this page, "Similar Threads", but there's little follow up in those. I wonder if JBP techniques killed them?