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Rips.... you will always be a critic and (in my opinion) an extremely careing person.... you can be both.!!

As for the ability of a critic to bash (a little strong, but lets go with it) and then show one of their own with similar or at least glaring fault.... human nature! I admit to seeing my own work through rose colored glasses. I'm sure most of us do! Thats where the forum comes in. If anyone sees something that looks incorrect or in need of another direction, they should point it out! If we are truely interested in doing better work with our trees we should listen! As for the tone of the critique, it should be tempered! Especially tempered by the ability level of the artist being critiqued. I place the label 'novice' by my posts. I do this for two reasons..... 1- to let others know that I ain't no expert..... go with my advise and thoughts as you see fit. 2- to let others know that I 'ain't no expert' give me advise knowing my present knowledge level is at the novice grade.

I would hope that if a rank newbie, my self and a very advanced member all posted a similar tree with a problem, the newbie would be treated with kid gloves... I would be treated not as easily and the advanced member would receive the most critical tone.

I would hope the three would all get the same advise and that even the "pro" would be treated with respect but critic is important... it is (one of) the yardsticks, meter for those inclined, we use in our lives.

And yes.... yes..... far to often the words used are far to cutting for posted material on a board like this....

Do others agree? or am I just being too winded and wordy for this topic!

5-Aug-2002	#6
Jay YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME Join Date: Sep-2001 Location: Jeffersonville Vt Country: USA USDA Zone: 4 AHS Heat Zone: 3 Posts: 2,154	Rips.... you will always be a critic and (in my opinion) an extremely careing person.... you can be both.!! As for the ability of a critic to bash (a little strong, but lets go with it) and then show one of their own with similar or at least glaring fault.... human nature! I admit to seeing my own work through rose colored glasses. I'm sure most of us do! Thats where the forum comes in. If anyone sees something that looks incorrect or in need of another direction, they should point it out! If we are truely interested in doing better work with our trees we should listen! As for the tone of the critique, it should be tempered! Especially tempered by the ability level of the artist being critiqued. I place the label 'novice' by my posts. I do this for two reasons..... 1- to let others know that I ain't no expert..... go with my advise and thoughts as you see fit. 2- to let others know that I 'ain't no expert' give me advise knowing my present knowledge level is at the novice grade. I would hope that if a rank newbie, my self and a very advanced member all posted a similar tree with a problem, the newbie would be treated with kid gloves... I would be treated not as easily and the advanced member would receive the most critical tone. I would hope the three would all get the same advise and that even the "pro" would be treated with respect but critic is important... it is (one of) the yardsticks, meter for those inclined, we use in our lives. And yes.... yes..... far to often the words used are far to cutting for posted material on a board like this.... Do others agree? or am I just being too winded and wordy for this topic! __________________ A Bonsai student living with his trees at N 44.37 W 77.49... Think before you act... then think again... no good comes from rushing