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Old 6-Sep-2005   #4
Will_Heath
 
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I have to agree with Matt here for various reasons. Please allow me to offer a rebuttal to some points that were made.


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Originally Posted by bonsaial1
I post it there to show what I am capable of doing, and what some of my sucesses are. I have tried to post some of the best pictures possible to help showcase my talents in a way that will let people know that what I have to say has some merit.

I feel that your peers determine if what you have attempted has merit or not, or if you have talent or not. Simply allowing posting without critique or comments will open the door for anyone to post anything which could led to an overall reduction of quality, not to mention bring the learning process to a screeching halt for posters and people like myself who learn also by weighing others critiques against our own beliefs.


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Originally Posted by bonsaial1
The Formal gallery I feel follows the same way. I feel that it dovetails the personal gallery, but gives us the freedom to showcase artistic trees during the seasons, and show them in a more formal setting. While trees in the personal gallery may be just an image of the intended tree, the Formal Gallery is the place that Suiseki, scrolls and accents may be used to build the artistic compositions we like to see from time to time.

[QUOTE=bonsaial1]I feel this is not the place to add negative comments, nor should this be a place that constructive criticism should take place. There are many places that one could post a tree and recieve all the negative comments one could handle.

I take it that you are defining negative comments as those that do not say what the artist wishes to hear? Both negative and positive comments are instructive. Anyplace that you post your work automatically opens it up for critique. The T.O.D., the gallery, show and tell, general, ask the master, etc. This is part of a public forum and is to be expected, in fact, I look forward to it because even if I do not agree with the comments made, they add to the way I view my work and thereby effect the outcome. As I have said before, if we just wish to view or own work without comments then we should simply hang a picture of it on our wall.

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Originally Posted by bonsaial1
The formal Gallery should be like looking at the bonsaiTALK equivilent of a Kokufu album. The pictures should be there for retrospect, and feeling. They should have the feeling of pureness, and not be ruined by silly comments on trivial aspects of display. I can see just as much in a poor display as I can a good one. I have the ability to see past the small errors, and feel the do not reflect poorly on the artist in this forum.

Al, you yourself have commented on the fact that many artists who write books choose their worst bonsai for the cover. This is as far from a public form as you can get and yet we still critique. Take the Elevations Show for example, we all critiqued the show on this forum, many who were not even there. Did these artists ask for a critique? Did we care? The fact is that whenever a work of art is put up for public display, be it in a book, in a gallery, or on a forum, it is automatically put up for critique, some valid, some not, but never-the-less still available and this is the nature of the art.

The good news is that critiques themselves are also available for critique. A poor critique without merit will be quickly challenged. This also is a learning experience.

There is one place here where work can be put up with little critique, the NQRY files.

Will Heath
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