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Vance,
I also think that Chris's comment about sawing through a root ball with Boon and finding a solid core of (my words) petrified clay is exactly the reason to go to the heart of it and get rid of that sterile, hostile and death promoting junk at the base of the tree.

I have atached a couple of pictures of trident maples we dug in December- root balls weighed several hundred pounds each- unmoveable by one or two persons whenset down. Irrigation pump. hi pressure nozzle and "voila" we go 106 of em in the trailer. Absolutely soil free. Some will say "but those are tridents"- we do cypress, pines (with less pressure), Japanese maples, Horbeams, quince, Crape myrtles and junipers the same way. From the ground and from balled and burlap and nasty big plastic pots. John